Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/06/2002 08:03 AM House EDU

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HCR 11-UNIFORM RULES: STANDING COMMITTEES                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
[Contains discussion of what became HCR 23]                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1366                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BUNDE announced  the next  order of  business to  be HOUSE                                                               
CONCURRENT  RESOLUTION  NO. 11,  Proposing  an  amendment to  the                                                               
Uniform Rules  of the  Alaska State  Legislature relating  to the                                                               
Education Committee, a standing committee of the legislature.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1326                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUESS, sponsor  of HCR 11, noted that  she was not                                                               
present for previous  committee discussion on this  subject.  She                                                               
indicated many  committee members have communicated  to her their                                                               
interest in  seeing this  bill move forward.   She  announced her                                                               
willingness to reintroduce  this as a committee  bill and offered                                                               
to do the work necessary.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE  noted his  understanding that  HCR 11  would require                                                               
adjustments [to become a committee resolution].                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 1291                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GUESS  offered that she would  seek direction from                                                               
more  seasoned members.   House  Concurrent Resolution  11 has  a                                                               
companion in the Senate [SCR 3].   She outlined two options:  The                                                               
committee could  go forward  with this  resolution, see  what the                                                               
Senate does, and  perhaps amend it later; or  the committee could                                                               
amend it now  [to address the establishment of  a House Education                                                               
Standing Committee].   She  said that she  has not  explored this                                                               
subject with the Senate; she noted her willingness to do so.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE requested members' comments on the subject.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1238                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PORTER  suggested that  if  the  House wished  to                                                               
consider a  standing education committee  for the House  alone, a                                                               
resolution would be needed to establish a special committee.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE clarified that it would be a standing committee.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER  offered that  he didn't have  a preference                                                               
regarding   [the  education   committee's  remaining   a  special                                                               
committee or  becoming a  standing committee], but  said it  is a                                                               
worthwhile discussion.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1180                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  said her  experience as  a member  of both                                                               
the House  Special Committee  on Education  (HEDU) and  the House                                                               
Health, Education  and Social Services Standing  Committee (HHES)                                                               
is that both committees "have their  hands full."  So many issues                                                               
exist that it is difficult to  adequately address them all in one                                                               
committee.  She  pointed out that most  states separate education                                                               
and health and social services, as two committees.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE concurred with Representative  Wilson.  He noted that                                                               
as  a former  chair of  HHES, he'd  received surprised  responses                                                               
from  legislators  of  other states  upon  their  discovery  that                                                               
[Alaska's legislature  combines education with health  and social                                                               
services].                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1124                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUESS echoed  Representative Wilson's  remarks in                                                               
response  to Representative  Porter's  comment.   She offered  an                                                               
example.  There was  a good policy debate in HEDU  on HB 211; the                                                               
resolution  will now  move to  HHES for  the same  policy debate.                                                               
However, the  debate now should  be a  fiscal policy issue.   She                                                               
expressed concern that  if HEDU remains a  special committee, the                                                               
policy  debate  will  continue  to be  duplicated  in  HHES;  she                                                               
questioned whether  this is the best  thing for the House.   With                                                               
two standing committees,  one group would focus  on education and                                                               
the other on health and social services matters.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1089                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS furnished that  much had already been said                                                               
that he  had wanted  to say.   He noted  that the  three freshmen                                                               
members on  HEDU might not  have the same perspective  as longer-                                                               
serving  members.     He  conveyed   his  appreciation   for  the                                                               
establishment  of the  HEDU committee,  where  members have  been                                                               
able to  concentrate on important  issues.  These issues  are not                                                               
going away,  he said,  and education  is a  large portion  of the                                                               
budget.  The education issues  would have been cumbersome in HHES                                                               
in  combination  with health  and  social  services issues.    He                                                               
indicated  his  support  for establishing  a  standing  education                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BUNDE requested  that this  be addressed  as only  a House                                                               
issue to be brought before HEDU for consideration.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1020                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUESS inquired  whether Chair  Bunde preferred  a                                                               
House  committee   resolution  or   for  her  to   resubmit  this                                                               
resolution.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE  indicated his preference  to create a  resolution to                                                               
establish  a  standing  education  committee in  the  House;  the                                                               
Senate can do likewise if it deems it necessary.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0978                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER  raised the  question of whether  the House                                                               
can establish  a standing committee  that requires a  rule change                                                               
without  affecting  the  Senate.   He  suggested  this  issue  be                                                               
broached with Legislative Legal and Research Services.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE  agreed with Representative Porter's  suggestion.  He                                                               
added  that  this proposed  resolution  might  be stronger  as  a                                                               
committee resolution.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUESS indicated  her concurrence  to make  this a                                                               
committee resolution.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 0927                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  inquired about the committee  placement of                                                               
early-development issues; she  said she was not  present for that                                                               
discussion.  She  offered her understanding that  most states put                                                               
it in a health and social services committee.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER offered that  this administration has given                                                               
the Department of  Education and Early Development  (EED) a title                                                               
that  includes early  development;  this may  not  always be  the                                                               
case, however.   He remarked,  "I don't think we  should probably                                                               
get that adventurous at this stage."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 0865                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUESS   expressed  her  understanding   that  the                                                               
Uniform  Rules   specify  the   departments;  right   now,  early                                                               
development  is in  with education.   If  that changes,  then the                                                               
Uniform Rules would change, she  said.  [The committee resolution                                                               
under discussion was introduced later as HCR 23.]                                                                               

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